Park Jaebeom galutinai paliko 2pm

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Park Jaebeom galutinai paliko 2pm

Rašyti by Agnie on Kv. 25 02 2010, 15:46


2PM jau buvęs lyderis Park Jaebeom išėjo iš grupės. Tai buvo paskelbta vasario 25 dieną JYP internetiniame tinklapyje. Ši žinia sudaužė  visas fanų viltis.

JYP Entertainment’s  laiškas skambėjo maždaug taip: 
“Gruodžio 22, 2009, Jaebeom prisipažino JYP atstovui Jung Wook  jog jis padarė kai ką blogo  Again and Again reklamos metu. Ir tai buvo kur kas rimčiau nei skandalas myspace.

Sausio 3, 2010, visi iš mūsų (kartu su grupės nariais) susėdome apsvarstymui ir po 3 dienų priėjom sprendimą, kad Park Jaebeom nebegalėjo tęsti savo veiklos kartu su 2PM.

Tokiu atveju mes buvome priversti nutraukti sutartį su Park Jaebeom”
JYPE pareiškė jog nekomentuos daugiau nei tai kad Jae jau gruodį buvo nusprendęs palikti grupę, o sausį pranešė likusiems grupės nariams..  
JYP planavo Jae sugrįžimą dar gruodžio mėnesį jei pats Jay sutiks, ir vėliau tai butų perkelta į balandį kartu su nauju albumu  Visa tai buvo laikyta paslaptyje. O dabar tai tiesiog tušti žodžiai kurie jau nieko nebereiškia.
Čia buvo žiauru. Sugadino nuotaiką. Šitiek laiko laukėm....ir šnipštas. Net jei nesu begalinė jų fanė ,žiauriai gaila. Ir net neabejoju jog Jae nepadarė nieko daugiau, o tiesiog norėjo palikt grupę.


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Re: Park Jaebeom galutinai paliko 2pm

Rašyti by JaeSu on Kv. 25 02 2010, 18:13

F*ck. Ką tik perskaičiau apie tai allkpop'e. Negaliu patikėt, kad jis ėmė ir taip pasitraukė... T.T na, bet jei jau jis nusprendė, turbūt nk čia ir nebepakeisi... Goodbye, leadja-sshi T.T
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Re: Park Jaebeom galutinai paliko 2pm

Rašyti by Agnie on Kv. 25 02 2010, 18:45

Bet jis turėtų, ne jis PRIVALO savo tokį apsisprendimą paaiškinti fanam, todėl kad pastarieji kaltę verčia ant JYP....O dar žiauru kad po šio laiško grupės fanų klubą paliko jau šeši TŪKDTANČIAI žmonių.



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Rašyti by m1nte on Kv. 25 02 2010, 19:05

Vien Daum cafe per 4val 45,000 paliko...teac savo cyworld uždarė, junsu komentarų dežutę....iš esmės dėl myspace JYP kaltas:

JYPE used Jaebum as a scapegoat in order to keep their company's image clean.

- Jaebum arrived in Korea in January of 2005. The Myspace comments were made February of 2005. In that one month, the only Korean society that he could have had access to is JYP Entertainment.

- In essence, Korea = JYPE.

- In order to protect their company's image, JYPE changed the meaning of Jaebum's comments regarding his 'slave contract,' originally set for 10 years, into comments that were belittling Korea.

- Jaebum's slave contract was set for 10 years, but with much persuasion and discussion, it was changed into 8 years, and then 7.

- Jaebum's comments regarding Rain leaving the company and the controversial $12 statement was later found to be part of the lyrics from D-12's song. He used it as a way to express his feelings towards the company.

- In other words, Jaebum did not belittle Koreans in his Myspace comments but belittle the Koreans around him - which could only be JYPE.

- JYPE found this to be extremely aggravating and thought of him as an inconsiderate boy, which was an effective enough reason to take him out of the company.

- JYPE then released statements pushing the blame on Jaebum and hoarding public opinion into thinking that these comments were made towards all of Korea, not JYPE and his slave contract.

- After Jaebum left, JYPE immediately came out with the statement saying that they are completely against 'slave contracts' and are working with the Fair Trade Commission.

- In the official homepage for 2PM, Park Jinyoung states that Jaebum was 'already that kind of kid.' One can easily feel the pented anger he has towards him.

- In Golden Fishery, Park Jinyoung specifically states that what Jaebum did was wrong and out of line.

Why would JYPE go this far to hide Jaebum's slave contract? Why? Because when you first think of JYPE, you think of a humane company. You think of Rain and Park Jinyoung's tears, you think of the love between the GOD members, you think of the Wonder Girls, Lim Junghee...

But with Jaebum, the secret was completely exposed to the public.

Think about it for a moment. An employee in a company was found to have a diary with a bunch of the company's secrets written inside it. It's only definite that the president will look at it and immediately fire him. If he doesn't fire him, he will be known to the world as a horrible president. Think about it. ^^

- Jaebum's leave was finalized because of pressure from Samsung regarding their CF contract. In order to save the contract, JYPE had to wash themselves of the controversy completely. [ Previously translated for 2OD. ]

- People that personally know Jaebum have come out with statements on F***b*** stating that Jaebum was forced to withdraw from the group in a conference that decided his fate.


- Fans realized that Korea = JYPE. JYPE had put the spotlight on 'Gays, hate,' instead of the 'contract.'

- JYPE pushed Jaebum to leave since he belittled the company, not Korea.

CREDITS : NAVER (SOURCE) ; hazyfiasco@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS)

JYPE announced that the members came to an agreement that they can no longer work with Park Jaebum and has agreed to his withdrawal.

- January 8th, 2010 Junsu leaves a comment on his Cyworld that the scent of Daegu is amazing. How can he say this two days after deciding that one of their members can never return?

- January 8th, 2010 Junsu leaves a Cyworld commeont on Chansung's Cyworld stating that he is looking for delicious places to eat. Once again, how can he do this days after agreeing to Jaebum's withdrawal?

JYPE announced that on the 22nd of December, Park Jaebum called President Jung Wook and made a shocking confession regarding a personal mistake.

- December 31st, 2009 JYPE makes an announcement on 2PM's official fan cafe specifically stating, "We would like to share this happiness with OUR LEADER, Jaebum, who couldn't be with us together on this stage but is always with us in heart."

JYPE announced that on the 3rd of January, the members were notified of Jaebum's confessions. After hearing of the confessions, the members decided that they could no longer work with Park Jaebum on the 6th.

- January 4th, 2010 2PM had an advertisement recording schedule.

- January 5th, 2010 Kwon & Wooyoung were spotted at Changdam-dong cafe eating green tea ice cream.

- January 6th, 2010 JYPE announces that all of the members agree to Jaebum's withdrawal.

Were they discussing Jaebum's withdrawal over green tea ice cream?

- January 21st, 2010 JYPE announces to the press that the company is in the same position they were in since Jaebum's leave and that nothing is decided.

- January 22nd, 2010 JYPE announces to the press that the rumors and misinformed articles are all groundless rumors.

- January 22nd, 2010 JYPE announces that Jaebum filming a music video in America is a groundless rumor.

Where were the members around 6th of January?

- January 7th, 2010 Wooyoung is spotted at Shinnara Record store in Busan.

- January 8th, 2010 Junho makes a post on the official 2PM fan cafe stating that he is on break in Ilsan.

- January 8th, 2010 Junsu is in Daegu.

- January 9th, 2010 Wooyoung is in Busan.

What happened after?

- January 17th, 2010 Fancam of Wooyoung smiling during the 'We will wait for you, Park Jaebum' fan chant is released.

- February 11th, 2010 During a recording of 'Win Win,' the question is asked who is like a gem? Seulong claims that the 10 members present here are gems, including Jaebum. This was broadcasted.

- February 14~15th, 2010 During Khun's tour in Thailand, Khun states that the person he is most jealous of is Jaebum.

Schedule of Again & Again promotions are released, proving that there is no time for Jaebum to have possibly made a 'personal mistake.'

- January 12th, 2010 Fan account is released stating that Jaebum is practicing his vocals.

A fan cafe is set up for fans wanting to participate in sending gifts to Jaebum. They created a special ID for Jaebum.

- January 23rd, 2010 There is records of Park Jaebum logging on to the cafe.

- February 6th, 2010 Fan account of Jaebum's bboying competition reveals that he signed an autograph stating "2PM Jaebum."

Let's go till the end, JYP.

CREDITS : DAUM (SOURCE) ; hazyfiasco@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS)


Paskutinį kartą redagavo Jun, Pen. 26 02 2010, 13:26. Redaguota 1 kartą



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Re: Park Jaebeom galutinai paliko 2pm

Rašyti by Agnie on Pen. 26 02 2010, 13:05

Į LT kalbą verčiu tai kad, pagal JYPE laišką visi nariai buvo susirinkę aptarti reikalo dėl Jae . Bet tą dieną jų net nebuvo vienoje vietoje. Taigi tai yra melas.Visi žinom jog pramogų verslas yra suktas dalykas, nė neabejoju kad  JYP has something fishy. Bet kiekvienas pasirįždamas ateit į verslą žino ką daro, o skųstis vėliau tiesiog negalima. 



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Rašyti by m1nte on Pen. 26 02 2010, 13:24

O sausio 3, 2010, visi (įskaitant grupės narius) susirinko aptarti reikalų susijusių su Jaebeom sutartimi, bet visa nutartis buvo jau pavėlavusi tris dienas, ir Park Jaebeom nebegali tęsti veiklos su 2PM.
Blogai išversta...

Sausio 3, 2010, visi iš mūsų (kartu su grupės nariais) susėdome apsvarstymui ir po 3 dienų priėjom sprendimą, kad Park Jaebeom nebegalėjo tęsti savo veiklos kartu su 2PM.

On January 3rd, 2010, everyone of us (along with the members) sat down for a discussion and came to an agreement 3 days later that it was no longer possible for Park Jaebeom to continue activities along with 2PM.

Nariai galutinai sutiko dėl Jay pasitraukimo sausio 6d. Bet tarp 3d ir 6d jie nerodė jokių nusivylimo ženklų...po tos datos ir dėjosi keisti dalykai...vėl jokių nusivylimo žėnklų...viskas kaip buvę....

Išleisti Again & Again promotion tvarkaraščiai, įrodantys, kad ištikrųju nėra jokio laiko Jaebum padaryti "asmeninę klaidą".

Tvarkaraštis juk nemeluotų...


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Ir ką tik sužinojau kad 2PM ir jų vadybininkas nieko nežinojo apie JYP išleistą pranešimą dėl "galutinio Jay pasitraukimo"...
Viskas melas...JYP imasi savo senųjų triukų...


Paskutinį kartą redagavo Jun, Pen. 26 02 2010, 14:33. Redaguota 1 kartą



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Rašyti by Sve?ias on Pen. 26 02 2010, 13:46

Va čia jau tikrai .....
Bleam jaučiu kaip fanam psychozė plaukia...Labai negražiai pasielgta ;<
Galėtų jis grįžti man jis visai patiko T.T
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Rašyti by Agnie on Pen. 26 02 2010, 14:31

Jeigu aš būčiau jų fanė tai nusiraučiau plaukus.Dabar fanai boikoti\uoja, stovi prie JYP namų, o saugantis nuo fanų JYP pasisamdė apsaugą...Na o dabar manoma, jog Jay ne savo noru išėjo, o buvo išmestas (viršuj apie tai parašyta). Visi žinom kad pramogų verslas yra suktas. Ir netik SM sudaro slave contracts...



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Rašyti by m1nte on Pen. 26 02 2010, 14:37

Tiesa jau išaiškinta...JYP meluoja...2ONEDAY forume begalės įrodymų...

Naujausia žinutė iš 2ONE DAY forumo [GANDAS]"Kaip Jay sužinojo apie savo pasitraukimą":

I don't know who will read this, but for now I'll write.

I won't reveal who I am, but for those who would believe- please do. And for those who wouldn't, it's up to you.
I'm telling 100% truth and will not make up stories from things that I am unsure of.

Regarding Park Jaebum's complete withdrawal, he knew about it. It was talked about in between both JYPE and Jay, but it was only a one sided conversation. You're saying that JYPE doesn't have a family image? They are, but it is only a term used by the staff and singers of the company - excluding the higher position holders. I've been seeing Jay from the start and am writing this because he lives such a pity life. I want to speak out but I can't. I don't know where should I start, I guess I should start chronologically.


Jay's return was 100% confirmed before this. Besides the higher position holders and advertisers, all staff and singers of the company have agreed to his comeback. It was decided that Park Jin Young was to take him back from Seattle by himself. The staff all had in insight and understanding of the boycott and this lead to JYP's meeting with Jay's parents in Seattle. It was just a marketing tool to prevent from further boycott. Frankly, we (including the 2PM members) thought the boycott wasn't very wise. To us, he was going to come back so what was the boycott all about. Soon, as we expected, Jay's return was drawing near.

Do you know at which part were the fans wrong? JYPE never has a meeting with all the staff. Only President Jong and other higher position holders make all decisions. That's why none of the staff (eg : the ones who pick up phone calls) have a clear view of the situation allthough we are working in one building.

Anyways, there is a keypoint to Jay's withdrawal..

The staff has never had any meetings with Jay and has only settled things through the phone.
You're wondering what had the company said to Jay that lead to his complete withdrawal? I'll summarize everything for you. I pledge to just speak the truth

"2PM is now doing very well, and even if you don't return they are able to fill in your position perfectly. They have now succeeded with their own efforts and if you come back, you will cause confusion to them even if they don't show it. You will also shake the existing balance. You are doing well over there now, and if you come back we can't promise that you will do better than before. Even if you come back, but cannot do well on stage, it will become a great minus to the other members. Think carefully, aren't you fully happy over there? The members are obviously doing so well without you, so you need no worry about them. In case you are worried about the contract termination fine, we'll just drop the fine. We will fix the reason for your incapability to return so you don't need to worry about explaining - but in exchange, you must not do anything that will cause misunderstandings for the fans. We will inform the members by not hurting them so you will need to be cautious of your actions. We are sorry for this and hope you are blessed.




There were alot more but I have summarized it to this. Do you get the clear picture of what happened now? Jay had no idea of what was going to happen and was brought to disappointment after picking up that call. Can you imagine how would a youth like him, who was preparing hard for his comeback would feel? They were pretending to be kind to call of his contract termination fine and to help the boys for him. They really didn't need Jay anymore, it was as if he was just thrown away like that. The members only had to accept this fact with no questioning.

JYPE is a very strict company. Every singer has to ask for permission to feature in any projects and they have to report of their whereabouts everyday.

It was the same for Jay who had withdrew from 2PM in Seattle. They had clear information on Jay's schedules in Seattle, regarding his dance rehearsals and activities. Nobody had the chance to be dishonest. Jay received the same treatment even if he was so far away and wasn't allowed to breath for once. Jay now has no rights to speak for 2PM or JYPE and was even told to remain anonymous online by covering his face.

Jay is too nice.

He was worried that he would be a burden for the members once again according to the company's words. It is obvious that he has agreed to withdrawing because of this. He never did place himself in first place. Jay is a person who would go through anything for 2PM (his members), I am sure of this. He must have thought that he no longer needs to be in 2PM and holds no special significance. He might even feel sorry for creating such problems for the company..

The rest of the 6 members are no where near pitiful. It is Jay that is so pitiful and I feel so sorry for the his awaiting fans. They have now shot all arrows at Jay, so as not to affect the 6 members. Why did they say that the members have all agreed to his withdrawal while they were actually on their holidays? Think properly. You are all being lied to, even I was lied to and will be lied to again in future. The members had no idea of this, but not like they could do anything about it anyway.

I knew that Jay's withdrawal couldn't be taken back, but if there was 1% of hope I was hoping that he could come back and be a magnificent leader. The media will continue to write about his "disorganized social life", as JYPE have planned. Jay will not be able to deny all these, and I hope the rest of you are not waiting for a reply from the members themselves.

CREDITS : Tellzone ; thenatstory@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS) ; AngMa@2ONEDAY.COM (Source)


Aš asmeniškai tuo tikiu, jau iš anksčiau tokią nuomonę buvau susidarius, bet kai perskaičiau šį laišką, tuom nebeabejoju.



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Rašyti by Agnie on Pen. 26 02 2010, 17:39

Aš net neįsivaizduoju kas mane galėtų įtikinti..Em... Šis žmogus turėtų būti tikrai iš laaabai artimos aplinkos.Suprasčiau JYP, galima sakyti Jay nebereikalingas, grupė kuo puikiausiai ritasi vieni...bet fanai vistiek neleis ir nepaliks viso taip. Jie nenustos dar ilgą laiką.Neviskas mane šitame laiške įtikino, ir netikiu kad kitiem grupės nariam taip nusišvilpt ant Jay...



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Rašyti by m1nte on Pen. 26 02 2010, 18:15

Kiti nariai ir jų vadybininkas nebuvo informuoti, kad JYP tokį pranešimą apie "Jay pasitraukimą galūtinai" ketino rašyti.



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Rašyti by JaeSu on Pen. 26 02 2010, 18:41

O man tas laiškas pasirodė net labai įtikinamas. Viskas logiška ir puikiai derinasi. Juk pripažinkim, koks čia suprantingumas ir 'žmogiškumas' kai kalbam apie pinigus. Manau, JYP tikrai nusispjaut į tai, kad fanai nepatenkinti. Juk visi skandalai kada nors praeina, praeis ir šis. Ir jau tikrai visiems aišku, kad atlikėjai (taigi ir 2PM) neturi daug laisvės savo veikloj ir jau tikrai niekas jų neklausia priimant tokius spendimus. Man iš pat pradžių atrodė, kad JYP blefuoja. Vieną dieną laidė neaiškias užuominas apie Jay sugrįžimą,kitą dieną jau neigė visus 'groundless rumours'.
Be to, jei tas žmogus, kuris čia rašė dirba JYP'e kokiu padėjėju, plauotuoju ar dar velniai žino kuo, jis tikrai galėjo visą tai tiesiog nugirsti ar pan. Tai visai realu. Juk visi žino, kaip greitai nuteka informacija.
Dabar mane vėl pradeda nervinti visa šita nesąmonė ir visa ta 'susitaikymo-būsena' kuri buvo užplaukus vakar jau praėjo, db jaučius supykus ant to sumauto JYP. Su Wondergirls nesąmonės dedasi, 2PM vėl skandalai... -.- mest lauk tą mulkį JYP iš tos kompanijos reikia =.=

(jei kas nors perskaitė šitą mano rašinėlį nuo pabaigos iki galo jiems reikia įteikt medalį XD)


Paskutinį kartą redagavo JaeSu, Pen. 26 02 2010, 21:11. Redaguota 1 kartą



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m1nte
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Rašyti by m1nte on Pen. 26 02 2010, 20:38

Siulyčiau jums pasiskaityti 2ONEDAY forume naujienas...ten pateikta dar daugiau faktų, kad kalta JYPE.



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Rašyti by Agnie on Pen. 26 02 2010, 20:38

Ir su Wonder girls kažkas buvo?Na iš tų didžiųjų entertainment dar YG didesnių skandalų nepridarė.O kalbant apie 2pm tai sutiniku kad skandalai praeis, bet net neabejoju kad dar iškils daug intriguojančių straipsniukų už ir prieš.... o galiausiai visiems atsibos.



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Rašyti by m1nte on Pen. 26 02 2010, 20:42

This company is easy to anticipate because they use the exact methods they used in the past.
You can see what the outcome of the conference will be through Hyunah and Sunmi's case.

JYPE decided to not bring Jaebum back in the middle of January. After that, they started spreading rumors themselves in several places stating that Jaebum doesn't want to return, including an extra rumor about his health. However, his bboy videos had already circulated on Youtube at the time and they were forced to discard those two rumors.

Now their pattern has changed into starting rumors that will effectively bar Jaebum from returning. They're the ones pushing these rumors. Even Kim Hyungwoo is writing on his Cyworld and checking the response of fans.

What I'm afraid of is them later releasing articles regarding a real controversial problem using Jaebum's initials as the culprit.

Why? Because that's what happened to Bi, Hyunah, Park Jiyoon... Bi and Hyunah were able to recover well but Park Jiyoon will forever have to live with the rumor JYPE placed on her until she succeeds as a comeback.

TN NOTE: What this author is referring to is the controversies surrounding the leave of all previous JYPE artists. Each artist had a rumor that JYPE announced when the artist stated their leave from the company.

* GOD's controversy. The members themselves opened a press conference for the fans and revealed that they had never heard of the withdrawal of the member in question and blatantly stated that they do not believe he should be kicked out from the group like this. Fans went up in boycott, and within a week, JYPE was forced to announce that the member will remain in the group. Articles and news videos of this press conference can be easily retrieved. Park Joonhyung cried at the conference saying he never wanted to leave. Yoon Kyesang stated that his withdrawal from the group was a reason he could never reveal.


* Park Jiyoon has come out to the press herself and stated that her leave from JYPE was less than desirable. At the time of her leave, rumors all of a sudden began to circulate news portals regarding a sexual encounter before the release of her first album. She never recovered from the rumors.

* Noeul was never notified of the group's disbandment. They found out through the newspaper the next day.

* Bi's departure from JYPE was sensationalized in the media by JYPE as a 'termination of contracts' when in actuality, Bi fulfilled his contract terms and left as an individual. There were also rumors of particular statements he made on a radio show.

* Wonder Girls was on the brink of losing their image due to a rumor that began circulating. Soon after, Hyunah left the group due to health problems. Instead of dealing with the rumor and speaking on behalf of the girls, JYPE released a statement regarding Hyunah's health and took her out of the group.

* Media erupts in controversy over mistranslated articles stated by 2PM's Park Jaebum. Despite the mistranslations, Park Jinyoung himself states that it is Park Jaebum's mistake, Park Jaebum's a rebel.
Skandalų JYPE istorijoje buvo daugybė...

http://insider2pm.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/the-biggest-lie-of-it-all-please-read/
http://bbs1.tv.media.daum.net/gaia/do/talk/free/read?&bbsId=A000012&articleId=827243&pageIndex=1
Tai viską paaiškina...




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